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Thursday, August 15th, 2019 09:13 am
There was a somewhat blown out of proportion article about sharing your phone number on the NY Times, so i did a search on mine. I found out a page i had up to provide contact information on LJ was public. Ugh. What other free information was less concerning - the area code is associated with a place i haven't lived for 19 years, the carrier associated with the number is no longer the carrier, at least two random other names were associated with the number as well as Christine's.

It did lead me to go look at my privacy settings at twitter. You don't need a phone number there anymore, since they've long left their SMS dependency, so i removed it there. There was a setting that indicated i was allowing myself to be found by phone number, but i didn't find any results searching for my phone number before removing it.

I can be found on Telegram with my phone number, and i keep it open to chat with two people.

Obviously, someone who paid a data aggregator will get plenty of more or less accurate information (which drove the panic of the NY Times story). The state of North Carolina makes voting history (the elections in which you voted, by what method you voted) as well as gender, race, party affiliation, and residence all public, given first and last name (and includes a "sounds like" search on those fields). That database is available via other interfaces online that have indexed it differently. It seems Ohio and Florida are similarly free with their data (http://voterlist.electproject.org/states) while other states charge fees. I didn't look at all 50, but i did find those three states to be rather curious compared to other states pricing from $2.50 to $30 (California) to thousands of dollars to tens of thousands.
Thursday, August 15th, 2019 02:38 pm (UTC)
Interesting. As well as annoying. In many countries, education and even tax data is publicly available.
Friday, August 16th, 2019 12:10 pm (UTC)

Good point. However, there’s a difference between intellectually aware of something and actually seeing the mass of data

Thursday, August 15th, 2019 07:26 pm (UTC)
Haven't read the NYT article, so they may have covered this, but I am annoyed at how frequently my phone number is demanded (mainly because I can't remember it! whereas the housemate has several, and which one to give ... ). It occurs to me that there has finally been some clamping down on demanding Social Security numbers as identifiers, and so the phone number is being demanded instead.

... Now that I see the article on Sfgate, the writer is assuming we all freely give our phone numbers. I'm apparently way ahead on this. Walgreen's and the San Jose State library can especially get knotted.
Edited 2019-08-15 07:40 pm (UTC)
Friday, August 16th, 2019 06:28 pm (UTC)
As the NYT article implies, pharmacies are now using ability to reel off one's phone number—or at Walgreen's at least, key in the last 4 digits—as confirmation of identity when picking up a prescription. They now have a note in my file to ask me my address instead, after I kept refusing to go through my purse and read it off the tiny card in there, but the savvy clerks reach over and themselves go through the multi-step process to tell their computer to stop demanding it or some other way to contact me. It's clearly connected to the insurance, but it's so stupid. They actually have my number in their system, of course (I had to cancel calls from them several times before they got that message.) The library thing is connected to San Jose State going back on its agreement with the public library. The catalogues are now separated, SJSU books are no longer listed with LinkPlus, and we all had to get a separate user ID and password. (I'm not sure whether you had already moved, but there was a nasty transition during which they assigned temporary IDs and automatically generated passwords without telling us what they were and one single person wound up answering the phone calls from panicked Public Library users who needed to renew books; SJSU also now only lets you pay fines by credit card. We then all had to come in to create our new permanent IDs and passwords.) This summer they put in a new self-checkout machine in the lobby and demanded the last four digits of my phone number for me to use it. That would make three passwords for their half of the library; the temporary ID and password are still in the system, I see them come up dotted out as options whenever I log in. And I can't remember my phone number and should not be required to produce it as an identifier! Particularly since the way the lady kept saying "But you must have given your phone number when you registered with SJPL", they are clearly thinking of smartphones, and you folks who use those have most of your lives on those things. (Actually I think I gave my e-mail but not the phone number; dealing with SJSU students all the time may have caused them to forget some of us e-mail from PCs.) So I ranted at them and abandoned a stack of books. When we were last there I was afraid I was about to lose my last connection to any sort of scholarly library, but they let me check out the books over the counter as usual (same stack, reconstructed, except for the one that had presumably been misshelved). Maybe San Jose grew a backbone. Or maybe the machine broke.
Edited 2019-08-16 06:32 pm (UTC)
Friday, August 16th, 2019 11:25 am (UTC)
I'm always asked for my phone number. Eventually I looked into it, and legally, a phone number is considered public information... from whatever article I read a few months ago. So I've been operating on the assumption that people have the right to know my number.
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